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Success Stories: Audrey Kerwood and Andy Jenkins of
A2Armory.com
by Kevin Bidwell
I got aquainted with Audrey and Andy recently after taking a
look at their excellent book on building a Yahoo store.
(You can see it here: Yahoo Store Builder)
They are examples of the GOOD kind of people you meet
through online business--they have great goals for their
lives, a high sense of values and work hard to achieve those
goals without violating those values.
I think they're the kind of people most of us want to be
when we grow up.
I had the opportunity to ask them about their various online
endevours. If you have ever wanted to start from scratch
and get going online, Audrey and Andy and great examples to
follow...
Can you tell me a little about both of your backgrounds?
We both have a deep love of films, just like you do. Ever
since we were both little kids, we've run been getting into
some sort of trouble by borrowing friends and relatives
video cameras, scooping up all of our willing and unwilling
friends, and trespassing on someone's property to make fun
little flicks. We both paid our dues, both at film school
and as coffee getters on just about every sort of imaginable
Film and TV project.
Eventually, I worked my way into Visual FX, and strangely
enough Direct Response Television (Infomercials). Audrey
wiggled her way into the Feature Film industry in the prop
and production design department, and graduating into bean
counting. She was an accountant on the Film Signs.
What was your first site? What sites do you currently own?
When we decided to start a Home Based Internet Business, we
had the advantage of having read "Cash flow Quadrant". We
knew almost right away that we needed a few different
streams of income if we were going to do this full-time. So,
Audrey went to work setting up a Yahoo! Store
(www.a2armory.com), and running some Ebay auctions. Since I
have always been a Home Business Junky, I started an
Information site called Home Business Reviews.
We currently have 4 Yahoo! Stores, marketing them depending
on seasonal conditions. We also run 4 affiliate web sites,
Ebay auctions, and our Information Product Web site, Yahoo!
Store Profits.
What motivated you to get into an online business?
Easy Question, and let me just say, we remind ourselves of
our intentions Daily. Audrey and I are crazy about each
other. So much so that even while we liked what we did in
the Film Business, we HATED the hours it kept us apart.
Just to give you a perspective, most film shoots are
scheduled at 12 hours a day. That's just how they are
scheduled! It's not uncommon for a shoot to run 16 hours.
We simply wanted to spend more time together. Here's the
thing, we made terribly good money making TV and Film. But
it eats your soul and your free time. Leaving for work
before the sun comes up and getting home after it's sets
doesn't leave you much "Human Time".
Seriously, I wanted to learn to play the drums, and Audrey
wanted to play the bass guitar - but by the time we ate
something at night, it was time for bed.
The world is a fascinating place, and we both felt that the
time we spent just making a living was way out of any sort
of Healthy Balance. We didn't want wealth, we just wanted
some independence. I've always been fascinated with the
Internet. I'd be surfing along, see a site that bowled me
over and shout out "There has GOT to be a way to make money
with this thing!"
One day, we just decided to put some money aside and give it
a shot. And now I'm talking to a guy like you!
What still motivates you?
The other day, I got an email from a customer of Yahoo!
Store Profits.
She had opened up a Yahoo! Store from scratch, and as a
matter of fact, she was one of our first customers. The end
of her email, she said, and I quote
"Guys, I think you have just changed my life".
Now, this woman used to write us, asking questions like
"What's a Jpeg file?" She's on her way to making six figures
with one store.
That's one reason.
I can remember when Audrey and I started writing YSP. We'd
been reading other e-books about how we needed to create our
unique selling proposition.
We'd sit around with a note book, brainstorming, getting
discouraged. Then Audrey hit me in the arm and said "Hey,
let's tell the truth and make a good product. I mean, how
can we fail if we really want to help people? We can learn
all this Internet Marketing crap as we go - let's just
commit to helping people. Andy, I MEAN IT!"
I can remember reading a little anecdote somewhere - "And
then one day, you'll realize your parents were right". My
mom always use to say "Giving is better than receiving".
She was right.
All we really need to do is look around at our lives to keep
motivated.
We live in a wonderful, comfortable Townhouse that's just
the right size and mortgage amount. We love movies, so we
built a home theater. And guess what, we can actually watch
something in the middle of the day! We're getting close to
being financially free as we practically can. Seriously,
it's just about all we ever wanted when we first wrote our
business plan.
How has that gone?
It's like we're blessed. We've had such success that I
sometimes get a little paranoid about it!
Have your sites made money?
Good Grief Yes! All of them have made generated some sort
of revenue.
Can you share any specifics?
For you Kevin, absolutely. When we started, we evaluated
our finances and decided that we could still keep a roof
over our heads, eat, and keep the lights on if we generated
a little less than $5,000 a month. Now, please understand
that that number is less than half of what Audrey and I made
in the Film Business.
But, we were serious about this, so we set a minimum goal.
It took us 5 months to get there. But then something
strange happened.
On month 6, we doubled our Home Business Income. 2 months
before that, we really started to approach our business as
Marketers, not as box movers. We decided that we needed to
have 2 points of focus, Selling and/or Creating products of
the highest quality that we were proud of, AND learning as
much about Internet Marketing as we could. We started
optimizing our web sites, e-zine advertising, and what I
think is the best strategy of them all - Planned Failure and
Recovery. We plan on failing, but we fail in a forward
direction. I know it sounds a little strange, but in the
simplest terms, we keep an eye on just about every customer
comment, email, vendor communication, and web stat that we
can. When something goes wrong, we have so much information
that we can usually fix it. That's part of our Internet
Marketing philosophy - After our commitment to create and/or
sell great products, we know that the internet can be boiled
down to 2 things - Numbers and Psychology. So, we keep a
close eye on both of those things.
Hey, it might not be the best strategy - but you know what,
it works for us!
We're now doing about $24,000 a month from all of our web
business's.
How long did it take for you to show a profit?
If you were to factor in time, about 5 months. But we
stopped paying out more than we were earning in about 3.
Have any of your sites lost money?
Oh yes! We had a Yahoo! Store that sold Fiesta ware. It
tanked. There was so much competition and our vendor was
totally unreliable that we closed the store after 4 months.
How much do you work on the sites? How do you split it up?
Right now, we're in a growth phase. We're about to release
a few new products, and we're looking to invest in some real
estate, so we're working hard! If we just wanted to
maintain the status quo, we could run the whole thing in
about 2 hours a day. But, we've got some long term goals
that we want to hit this year, so we're burning the midnight
oil, so to speak.
Audrey manages the Yahoo! Stores and the Auctions. I manage
Yahoo! Store Profits and our Affiliate Web Sites. Lately,
Audrey has been experimenting with the Search Engine
Optimization duties, which suits me fine. I'm now known as
"Content Boy".
How do you advertise and get traffic?
The better question is "How don't we advertise and get
Traffic?" Well, we don't use classified ads, and we don't
use bulk mail or Spam. We spend about $600 a month in the
Pay-Per-Click engines, and at the moment, we're testing some
e-zine advertising heavily. But more and more, we're looking
for folks to forge relationships with.
What is the best strategy you have had so far?
Joint Ventures. Look, even though part of the lure of
owning your own home based internet business has been it's
anonymity - I don't think that you can really prosper unless
you have a support network of Like-Minded folks that you can
share ideas with. We've both met some fantastic
entrepreneurs online, and most of those relationships have
generated opportunities and often income for us.
What has been your best "lucky break"?
I owe a lot of credit to my JV partners. One in particular
creates a monthly income of about $4,500 for me.
What future plans do you have for your sites?
We're really focusing on creating products that we have a
passion for. We're not interested in becoming Internet
Marketing Gurus, so we're focusing on Direct To Consumer
Information products, How To Videos, and Membership Web
sites for very niche markets. We're also creating
relationships with manufactures overseas for some exclusive
products that we'll sell in future Yahoo! Stores.
What advice would you give to someone who is wanting to get
into an online business?
I learn by doing - so do most people. It's terrible to see
folks continue to buy e-book after e-book and system after
system and not do anything with them. Look, Audrey and I
are forever students of our business. We are always
educating ourselves. But, we have made a commitment that we
will implement at least one strategy from every Internet
Information Product or System that we buy BEFORE we purchase
another one.
I used to suffer from Paralysis by Analysis. I wanted to
learn, think, consider.and then learn some more. Audrey on
the other hand, is afraid of nothing. She learns a little
about what she wants to do, plunges in. We compliment each
other in that way. The point is, there IS information out
there that will show you how to make a living on-line. You
need to have it, more importantly, you need to USE it! For
me, making mistakes is part of our business strategy.
Anything else you'd like to share with our readers?
I could write a book! But, if I had to summarize, the real
essence to on-line success can be boiled down into just a
few key ingredients:
1) Do what you love
2) Educate yourself, constantly.
3) Build RELATIONSHIPS
4) Be around long enough to be successful!
Thanks Andy and Audrey for being such a great example of
how to have growing online success.
You can find out more about Andy and Audrey by visiting:
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